MFC and SLF, Manulife and Sunlife.

Sunlife and Manulife are both  relatively “sleepy” insurance companies. Manu is the bigger of the two at about 22 bln whereas Sun clocks in at about 15 bln. Both demutualizes perhaps 10 years ago or so and, as is almost invariable the case, it is after all in the nature of man to be more reckless with other people’s money than their own, both got a wee bit more aggressive, but Manu much more so. We all know that morbidity and mortality only change with the speed of a glacier so there was no need to call the home office to check the latest premium, the big mistake, on the part of Manu, was to assume that this might also apply to stock markets. Quite amazing considering that the market had just before the introduction of their “prime plus” product experienced a whopping loss during the tech implosion. Anyway, here are both charts;

slf mfc sept 2011

Sunlife is on the left and Manu on the right. The counts shown are neither perfect or beyond doubt, but that of Sunlife follows the pattern observed with many other financials, that is an A-B-C up followed by a drop back to the level of the B-leg (not quite) Manu should have had the same count, which arguable it did except that the whole thing is distorted and skewed to the downside. The C wave failed miserable (we warned about this several times!) and with the stock at $11.12 we are within spitting distance of the lows at $9+. The problem is that the last down-leg cannot possible be complete. Barring some miracle the stock is going in the direction of $5-6. Could we possible be looking at SuMa as the next big event after Confed??

SLF update

slf sept3 2010

When we first commented on SLF it was trading at $24 and the , highly predictive and accurate “diagonal” clearly called for a buy.(same but different story on MFC)  A $5 dollar initial rebound was suggested as a minimum, however if the diagonal is correct , as I believe it is, we should continue to $31. The question therefore is do you step aside for the intermission or just wait till it gets to $31. Entirely up to how quick you can change gears, but I would be inclined to stay with this one.

Ultimately you will want out as the big picture is still negative for the stock market overall.

SLF update

slf sept 2 2010

SLF  in this last down-leg from $31 to below $24 there is a lot of overlap so the possibility that this too is a diagonal is quite real. If it is we should (at the very least) move back to the $31 level, and do so in 3 waves (first to $28.50, than a drop of 2 dollars and then on to $31. An equivalent level on MFC is at about $17/18.This is obviously at odds with the market overall but keep in mind that a stock like MFC was close to all time lows whereas the market overall is only down a few hundred points from the highs which were 62% above the lows. Clearly their was and is room for these stocks to do their own thing.

SLF (same as MFC, maybe better)

 

slf aug 2010 slf aug 2010 2

Before the world of finance drops to zero, we may still have a solid up move into mid next year going by the charts of MFC and SLF, and many others. SLF earns 6% and is less vulnerable to the stock market overall even though it too is hurt by low interest rates just as every other insurance company. It is interesting that while attempting to save the banks, the authorities are willing to sacrifice the insurers! The chart on the right is stylized , in reality the vector is more or less equal and the low is a small throw-over of the lower trend-line. Again things may change rapidly but at the very least I would expect a $5 rebound before anything else happens. Below are details.

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