Three banks ? GS , DB , RY.

Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank and our own Royal Bank. Of course it is debatable whether or not GS is in fact a bank or just a bank of convenience, but all three are very prominent in their respective communities and are both very visible and influential . The RY is actually the largest at a cap. of 72 bln and pays the best dividend yield at 4.41% and has a p/e of 13+.  For GS the numbers are 57 bln. , 1.25% yield and a p/e of 8.5 . Deutsche is the smallest at 37 bln, pays 2.76% and trades at a p/e of 10.2. Here are the three charts.

3banks ry 3banks gs  3banks db

       Royal Bank                                 Goldman Sachs                          Deutsche Bank

From 2002 to 2007 they all roughly triple in value. Then they all crash right back to that starting point or a little below. Then we get the rebound with RY having the most powerful advance of all , even making  new highs. GS and DB start dropping immediately but the Royal actually makes a second high (does not show properly on this chart, but the second high is $0.30 or so higher). Then all three start breaking down. Together they look like this.

3banks tohether

Santander, STD, the Spanish big boy I have left out, it gets too messy otherwise, but it fits in between Deutsche and Goldman. There are some conclusions that might be drawn from these charts. First it does not matter much what regulations were put on the books or taken off. It clearly helps to have political clout something presumable GS excels in but the others are not that far behind , I am sure. So the moral of the story is they are all going lower, given the pattern, and that suggests that RY is royally overvalued.

RY, The Royal Bank.

During and before the “great recession” we were able to predict fairly accurately what the Royal would do. Also after the lows, which we caught within a dollar or two , our projections were pretty accurate (see the dozens of old entries). Then when the stock went above $52 or so we were simple amazed that the bulls would be so forgetful so fast, apparently mood-swings can be , and often are, mind-numbingly stupid. Anyway here we are and now is a good time to address the future of this stock once again. Here is the chart;

RY aug 6 2011

By clicking on it you can enlarge it.

The count shown may not be correct in every detail, but I do believe the “message” or conclusion that should be draw from it, is. First a little history and facts. This bank is by far the biggest of the Canadian banks and as such it is the “price-setter” or role model within the oligopoly. A situation that is upheld by the Canadian government in millions of different ways and that allows the Royal (and the others) to extract a monopoly rent from the public in general far beyond what would be received if their income was based on their business acumen. (this lay-of-the-land can be found in many countries so it is not unique, but Canada is probable one of the best at it). In the vernacular of the street, this is commonly referred to as “nickel and diming”, except that the amounts are much larger. Much of this is achieved by obfuscation, i.e. deliberately being unclear so the client is caught off guard.

Back in 1987 the Royal took over DS, the top investment firm. DS had no intention of being taken over, it had gone public just a year or so earlier, but it got hit hard (together with Wood Gundy and others) by the British Petroleum deal. The combination of the “bought-deal” , that had just been pioneered in Canada (by Daly Gordon ), and taking too much hay on their fork in front of the 1987 market collapse, all of a sudden made it clear that DS had insufficient capital to play the game alone. For appearances the myth that DS was taken over by the Royal was fastidiously cultivated but it soon became clear that internally DS took over the sleepy giant, with lots of capital. At the same time Canada’s  5 pillars (our version of Glass-Steagall) were dismantled and banks were free to do most everything (including mortgages that were previously in the domain of trust companies). Then we got Greenspan  with zero interest rates (starting with Long Term Capital and Y2K) and the totally unfounded belief in markets’ ability to self correct(Ayn Rand’s objectivism), combined with Keynes’ misguided economics. All of which explains the Royal’s success and why the stock increases 10-fold (interest rates alone account for about 3 to 4 of the 10X).

EW wise the stock did 5 waves up to the $62 top. An A wave down followed by an irregular B up takes the stock to the $63 level of last year. Now the C wave is in progress starting very slowly and annoyingly retracing the first wave down almost in full. We have probable almost finished 1 of 3 so after a little bounce we should be in 3 of 3 and that is when all hell breaks lose. This is also the point where many holders of the stock will begin questioning the desirability of the buy and hold model for the purpose of saving on taxes. The stock should drop to $40 (regression-to-the-mean), then $30 (4th of previous degree), then $23 (62%loss) and possible to $14 (the level of 4 of 3 of prev. degree.

To put the above in perspective, all this would do is take the stock back to where it was just 11 years ago,(So many stocks have already done that)! Fundamentally it is not that far-fetched. A rise in interest rates some day to, say 6 or 7% alone would cut the stock in half. Then we already know that their American escapades were not that profitable and , more recently, they were granted membership in the too-big-to-fail club. A dubious distinction because it ties their hands more than they would like. M&A  and trading income could drop like a stone, something that was already evident at banks around the world. And last but not least, the Canadian consumer, now indebted at a higher level than the Americans before the recession may have to tighten their belts a little and borrow less. The housing market here has kept going and going but now that we are approaching a house to income ratio above 10x ( the norm is 3x at best) only the most delusional optimist can maintain that everything here is honky-dory and that we here are immune. Simple rules of the game changes, in the world at large or here- we will catch up anyway – could have a pretty debilitating effect on what the banks can and cannot do and consequently on their income. In the US banking income as a percentage of the S&P 500 companies income went from something like 10/15% 30 years ago to 30/40% a few years go. This is now rapidly reversing and would kill growth for many years to come.

There is only one count that I can think of that would allow the stock to stay above $40. The stock could be forming a huge triangle wave 4, the waves A and B are as shown but C would not go down as deep. It would retrace about 62% of the preceding leg, or the alternatively preceding leg; both yield the same target of $40 by coincidence the “mean” level). D and E would then follow. I would put the chances of that as rather remote, given the state of affaires in the world. Time will tell.

RY, Royal Bank.

ry july 26 2011

Most of the Royal’s moves we got more or less right, just did not expect it to double top. It earns you 4+% in dividends, has a p/e of just under 14 and if you ask any broker who has no idea what to do with your money, invariable the answer is to buy the banks and the royal is just the cream of the crop, it does not get better.

Except for one little fly in the ointment; have you ever wondered why the LCBO has never lost money? The answer is simple that it can not. It can overpay it’s employees, it can have disgraceful services in certain areas, it can do whatever it wants but as long as it has an inelastic product and a monopoly you cant lose. They Royal has the same privileges , except that it is the price-setter in an oligopoly. The place is run by a group of high-testosterone guys, from the original Dominion Securities that after becoming scared shitless in the 1987 scenario- roughly where this chart starts -  begged to be taken over only to invert the process from within. They did not even have to build a horse!

So recently, after trying so hard, they vacate the only culturally comparable environment, the US of A, and withdraw to home base. But , amazingly as it may be, they now have the honor of being elected to the very elite and select few of the banks that matter, the too big to fail group. Together with the TD they give a pathetic display that vacillates between wanting to be the biggest bully in the sand box, and not wanting to be in the box at all.

I like the Royal, they have this “right or wrong but never in doubt” approach. An admirable character trait, certainly when compared to the CIBC which has more of a “I-have-no-idea-what–I-am-doing-but business model.

The point is that these banks are exceptionally vulnerable. If we believe in globalism in Canada (we do not) , competition may get serious one of these days. This is true for communications and real estate services as well. From one day to the next the game changes, supposedly completely unpredictable and unexpectedly. Not so in EW terms. This stock looks pretty sick, and should it break down much more from here, as I suspect it will, $30 is most definitely a realistic possibility. Perhaps even a bit lower than that.

RY, Royal Bank

 

RY June 2011

After trying for about ten years or so to make a go of it, the Royal Bank has capitulated to the reality that it could not  run a retail banking franchise profitable in the US , despite the large numbers of “snowbirds” living there. For the Royal that sees itself as almost invincible to the point of being downright arrogant, the admission must come as a psychological shock that , if possible, would no doubt register as a 10 on the Richter scale. The reason , officially , is the lack of scale which “bulking up” could not solve, which begs the question how a few thousand much smaller US banks manage to eek out a living.

The sale will result in proceeds of 3.6 bln , mostly cash but also some PNC shares. A write down of goodwill to the tune of about 1.6 bln will be needed but this is, of course, a non-cash item. The deal will become accretive after a year. Proceeds may or may not be used to expand wealth management opportunities.

Above I have a chart of the Royal showing one possible EW count. I am by no means wedded to this specific one, a good alternative would put the top at the recent high and change the B-wave to a 5th wave. For the immediate future the difference is immaterial as in both cases a return to the $25 level , or worse, is called for.

For Canadians the thought of the Royal (and other banks) trading down to 1/2 of their present value is inconceivable, but forget about EW and look at the fundamentals.

1. Back in the 90-ties interest rates were about 10%, now they are 2%. Over-simplifying things a little the “discount factor” is roughly the inverse of the interest rate and consequently this change alone arguable accounts for at least 1/2 of the share increase from $5 to $60. Should the market distorted rates ever revert to “market” that gain would presumable vanish.

2. In the US it was Glass-Stegall , here it was the 5 pillars , abolished or watered down to become meaningless. This allowed banks to start doing mortgages of which they now have the lions share. It allowed them to become investment dealers (all the big ones were gobbled up), and it allowed them to make substantial inroads in the insurance , wealth management and trust business. This is not going to continue at this pace, some things may even be reversed if some degree of common sense returns to the market.

3. Popular resistance to the nickel & diming approach, for instance on credit cards etc. etc. is increasing and it is hard to see how profitability can be increase further without clashing with usury laws.

So now that the Royal has turned its back on geographic expansion where is the growth going to come from? Without that the banks could be in trouble and a stock price of , say, $25 is not that far-fetched, just look at the chart.

This is not something that is unique to Canadian banks. Below is Wells Fargo. For the last 5 years or more the patterns are slightly different but identical in their meaning ;

wfc june 2011